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Penetration VS others option

Discussion in 'Gear & Runes' started by William, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. William

    William New Member

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    I am now building my T7 gears so I want to make sure all the options is the best (or at least useful).
    For a DPS, which options are the most important?
    ATK / ATK SPEED / CRIT / CRIT DAMAGE / Penetration / ACC

    I heard that ACC would only be useful for low accuracy tank(such as Jane)

    How about penetration? I just got a ORB with ATK / CRIT / CRIT Damage / Penetration.
    And I didn't sure if it is worth to option enhance it or not.
    Penetration is one of the suspicious one...I don't know if it is good or it has a yield point or totally useless.
    By the way, I am building Arch (with normal Mana rege demand)
     
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  2. 04701GNIK

    04701GNIK New Member

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    Unlike other atk stat. Whether you require d.pen depends.

    for dpser, I would suggest that
    d.pen 45% (pve) > atk.spd > atk > crit dmg

    acc is quite trash to me in the meta unless you really hate naila.

    45% d.pen is essential for pve scenario , since pve enemies do have a lot more def than those in pvp.
     
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  3. William

    William New Member

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    Thanks for your reply.
    I mentioned that you make a clarification for PVE. Does that means Pen would be trash for PVP? or relatively useless for PVP.
     
  4. 04701GNIK

    04701GNIK New Member

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    Not exactly, 45% of d.pen gives you an advantage in high lvl bd raids / hell mode
    As for pvp arena, hot picks such as Ricardo and Laias provide extra m.def for the team, others like Clause, Demia p.def

    Frankly speaking, 45% pen is a fair share to me, the stat comes in handy while roaming in pve,
    and it also gets the job done fighting certain characters in the arena.
     
  5. William

    William New Member

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    I see. Thank you for your comments, it really helps. I guess it means I can keep this option.
     
  6. CupNoodles

    CupNoodles New Member

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    do all supdps needs penetration?
     
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    Flarebrass Active Member

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    Sub DPS aren't the main ones dealing damage, so they can fill their role without much Pen. If you're struggling in the damage department, then you should switch from a Sub DPS to a second Main Dealer who will have the Pen required to beat the content.
     
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    Rfwi New Member

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    Add i know D,pen works more benifitient in constantly damage skill like aisha`s S2 and damage- output outstanding skill like selene `s s2+s1, with enough d.pen enemy's tank might take more damage in every strategy combo you deal.
     
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    what about in a boss raid focus? Is there any point in having D.Pen on sub-DPS heroes? I have both Luna and Aisha...Luna has 50% D.Pen and Aisha has about 35%. Advice pls?
     
  10. Royalsz

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    There is a lot of mis-information going on here. Penetration becomes more valuble the higher defense stats an opponent has.

    In the current state of the game, penetration is typically used very little. 45% is WAY more than most top players use. 20-30% is seen as more than plenty, and many people these days are just building pure atk/atkspd/crit/chd and calling it a day.

    45% is a waste, and if you use a hero that gets pen from either their t2 or from other sources (mitra uw) then you really don't need any.
     
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    Royalsz New Member

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    Not really, just like main dps, sub dps do more dmg if geared correctly. That said, your sub dps are there for buffs.

    Read my above response about % required for pen.
     
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    Don't do 45%, you are wasting tons of other stats. 45% means that you literally have 1 line of pen on all 4 of your gear options (unless you have a pen trait in your trans perks).
     

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